Great disc and Discraft's version of the Innova Firebird, maybe a shade less stable. Great disc and great plastic!

Overall a really good discs. If you are looking for a good forehand disc I recommend this!

This disc was my first understable distance driver. I found it great for a nice flip up line or a long panning anhizer throw to get around a corner. I personally haven't tried any rollers with this but my friend says he loves it for his max distance rollers

I've got 2 of these discs both in the 170-174 weight range and they are great. When they were brand new i could throw it flat and get a really long drawn out S curve that would keep gliding to about 320' once i thought it was done at about 300'. They broke in fairly quickly and i now have to power down and hyzerflip them but they still get out to 340-360 pretty easily. They are great for max distance in wide open fairways, long hyzerflips, and massive turnovers and annys that fade at the very last second to land flat. The ESP Swirl is not only nice to look at but it feels great in the hand as well. The flight plate is really thin, almost like flesh not plastic. I'm assuming that's where its big glide comes from. It has the same flight numbers as a Thrasher but both of mine are a lot more understable than my Thrasher, totally different discs really. This would be an awesome disc for anyone, from a beginner moving up to their first 12 speed to an advanced shot shaper.

I really love this disc for long drives and flex shots. This disc can go in anyones bag and become the "go to," disc. This disc is one of my favorites of all time.

I love this disc. It is one of my favorite discs. The only number I would disagree with is the glide 4. I think it has more like 3 glide. It may only be the weight, but I don't think so. It is very easy to control and you can fore-hand it and back-hand it and it still flies really well. It has great distance and I would definitely buy another if I lost it.